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VIRGINIA BEACH -- Transportation and budgeting were discussed by 3 candidates for the city council - 2 seeking re-election and Wally Erb seeking one of the contested at-large seats.

Erb told the group 'the citizens had an opportunity to choose light rail in 1998 and they decisively said, 'No' and now it has come up again.

Lynnhaven Borough Councilman Jim Wood, last year's chairman of the Hampton Roads Transit Authority,  who last year said he felt the decision should be up to the members of council and not the people, said recently he has revised his thinking.  Wood is seeking re-election.

Why?  "Because of the publicly over the many troubles…," massive $110 MILLION cost over run, work behind schedule, the 'firing' of its incompetent leader, hiring of another executive at $40,000 a month, work, intersections that have to be rebuild at a cost of $100,000 each, "we have had."

He speculated Saturday there will be a referendum for beach citizens by November 2011, adding, "But I might be off a year or so."

Erb said what the council doesn't get is that 'No Means No,' but adding that "I'm not advocating for or against it, I just believe the citizens must have the opportunity to decide the direction this city goes."
He also said that bond spending - more than $300 MILLION without any citizen input will be another campaign issue.

"The charter and our city's founders said that any bonding expense over $10 MILLION, but be voted on by the people.  That hasn't been done on any of the $300 MILLION spent," Erb said.

The city is using a loophole to allow the Economic Development Authority (EDA) to circumvent the law -  an agency without transparency or accountability, and Erb said he thinks that's wrong.

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Vice Mayor Louis Jones, also up for re-election, said the city faces 'dire' economic projects for next year.

The council whacked the budget by $111 MILLION this year and Jones said the city manager has projected there will be a shortfall of at least $50 MILLION next year.

Jones took pride in the fact that he said the city didn't have to resort to any layoffs, cut major programs, or raise taxes to meet this year's budget.

"And we are committed to not raising taxes next year," he said.

Asked about the fiscal flap between the schools and the council, Jones said the council was legally within its power and authority to take part of the School Board's $35 MILLION surplus to help balance the city budget.

The school's budget was 100% funded he said and nothing was lost.

School Board Member Scott Seery, asked why the school board gave up $8 MILLION to help the city build an multi-million $$$ dog house while it was  forced to raise school lunches 15-cents, said it was beyond the board's control.

He resorted to a 'shell game' accounting when asked why the board didn't transfer the monies to cover the cost of school lunch increases.  

And like Jones said, when the school board came back to the council this year to take another $15 MILLION of the its $35 MILLION surplus, the council authorized it.  

Surely the same would have happened if the school board has asked for a revision to hike the cost of school lunches.  The answers to this question turned to mumbo jumbo.
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Henry Ryto  - The Breakfast Cult That Time Forgot |76.161.1.44 |07-11-2010 08:09:41
So Wally Erb is going to base his 2010 City Council campaign on...a 1999 advisory referendum and money borrowed by the City in 2003?

As my one adage goes, the Deaniacs are so busy refighting yesterday's battles that they have no idea where Virginia Beach is going in the future.
wally erb  - Noted |68.10.228.45 |07-11-2010 11:51:53
Mr. Ryto

You adolescent sarcasm is noted. The applause was resounding for a referendum when I posed the question at the Republican breakfast. I'm sure their chairman appreciates your calling the Republican party a cult.
Craig Johns  - You're outdated on your criticism |67.62.94.176 |07-11-2010 13:11:44
Henry: Wally isn't supported by the Deaniacs in this race. Moss is. Wally and Dean aren't on the same page this time out.
Ben Krause  - Fool |68.225.42.104 |07-11-2010 14:00:47
Henry, you are not even qualified to carry Dean's luggage. Unfortunately, you think you know what you are talking about, like most fools!
Mike Barrett  - Ten Year Referendum |68.231.242.230 |07-11-2010 08:48:32
Fact is, when city council passed a resolution based upon the referendum in 1999, it stated that for ten years council would not support light rail. Of course, that time period has long since expired. Things have changed also; urban interstates are too expensive, the Commonwealth has no funds for construction, the population of the city has increased and changed, the suburban growth model is unsustainable, congestion in the I-264 is unbearable, the Navy will leave if we don't deal with congestion, new TOD that brings commercial development will increase the tax base, reducing residential real estate tax rates, and our citizens now overwhelmingly support the creation of an alternate to the automobile in this congested corridor. Wally's opposition to light rail will doom his candidacy, and that of his cohorts. Thank goodness.
wally erb  - True |68.10.228.45 |07-11-2010 11:43:56
Mike:

You make valid points; however, you fail to support why the electorate should not have an opportunity to voice their opinion in Virginia Beach's future. "No means No" is valid unless we the people rescind that sentiment with a resounding "Yes". Whether or not I support or do not support the light rail concept is not germane until that time a question is proposed.

All things being equal, if conditions have changed as you have indicated, the electorate will recognize and support the light rail concept; hence, why is there a reluctance by light rail proponents to pose the question?
Henry Ryto  - 2010 vs. 1999 |76.161.1.44 |07-11-2010 15:33:25
Yes, there was a referendum in 1999. However, what usually gets brushed aside are the hows and whys of how light rail ended up on the ballot then. Very easily it might not have. The same objective factors that forced a referendum in 1999 don't exist now.

Rational voters recognize the "Put light rail to referendum" tactic for what it is: a ploy the the fringe right to try to hold the future of Virginia Beach hostage. Given such, 99.62% of registered voters refused to sign petitons to put it on the ballot.
John P. Kuchta, Jr.  - President |64.12.117.20 |07-12-2010 07:04:40
Henry:

Did a tsunami strike the Beach last night while I snoozed? It must have swept away the notion in your neighborhood that the folks being taxed have the right to decide how much, if any, taxes they wish to incur for the compensation of those who provide goods and services under that tax structure. I can't be certain; but, I think the concept was embraced in the mid-1700's by a bunch of crazy colonials who risked all to prove the idea of "No taxation without representation." What do you think, Henry, is the idea still viable in your America? John P. Kuchta
wally erb  - Population increasing? |68.10.228.45 |07-13-2010 06:41:57
Mike, you need to get your facts straight. Just your saying it doesn't say it is so. In 1998 population of Virginia Beach was 420,351. In 2008, 433,746. In a 10 year span that is considered a flat population. Moreover, since 2004, the population of 439,141 has declined yearly. Extrapolating that to the out years, the rate of decline exceeds that of its preceding rate of growth. OOPs, what if the Navy moves a couple of aircraft carriers, and support craft?
Mike Barrett |216.54.27.206 |07-12-2010 08:03:31
Yes Wally; I do trust advisory referena. They negate the system established by our founders to elect representatives to do the public's business. Take one example for which you are famous. Because Council acted as required in a republic, those we elected instead of the "DON'T DEW IT TEAM" provided a public park at 31st Street that millions have enjoyed. Had the result of the advisory referendum been followed, we would not have a park. It really is that simple.
Henry Ryto  - Learn History |67.62.94.176 |07-12-2010 06:28:05
Nowhere did the Founding Fathers specify we had to put every capital item to referendum. To the contrary, they established the Electoral College precisely because they feared demagogues like the VBTA.

If you want to stop light rail, elect 6 anti-LRT Councilmen.
Wally Erb  - Share Holders |68.10.228.45 |07-12-2010 17:47:21
The city manager position in this form of municipal government is similar to that of corporate chief executive officer (CEO), providing professional management to the board of directors. Council–manager government is much like a publicly-traded corporation. In a corporation, the board of directors appoints a CEO, makes major decisions and wields representative power on behalf of shareholders. In council–manager government, the elected council appoints a city manager, makes major decisions, and wields representative power on behalf of the citizens. Referendum is the equivalent to a shareholder meeting with the board of directors.
Wally Erb  - Virginia Beach is a Republic???? |68.10.228.45 |07-12-2010 17:40:53
Whoa! The Constitution of the Commonwealth and Virginia Beach specify a Republic?? Gee, where are the checks and balances? We have two houses in our city? We have Mayor with veto power? oh, and I suppose the City Attorney is the judicial branch?
Get real, we are council-manager form of government formulated under the Commonwealth Constitution which provides for referendum.
Mike Barrett  - The end of the Line |216.54.27.206 |07-13-2010 08:22:00
I am sure that Wally would rather discuss his esoteric views of the council manager form of government than the growing popularity and community consensus that we need to move ahead on light rail as soon as possible.

Providing impetus to that consensus is the announcement that the Commonwealth will provide passenger rail service from a station at Harbor Park to Richmond within three years. This station will be coordinated and colocated with the light rail station as well.

So in three years, the citizens of the Beach will want to be connected by light rail to this rail service to Richmond, thence to DC, NY, and Boston, and also to the Amtrak service south and west.

The Beach is ready for light rail, and the opposition of groups like the VBTA will spell their doom and ultimate demise. None too soon. MJB sends!